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Maybe I picked my word wrong, maybe I should have said "true" classic.

That is even worse :lachtot: :lachtot:

Sorry Tripps, you've lost me. Your bike is elligable to race with the classic club being within the rules of the classic club. My bike being post classic isn't elligable to race within the rules of the classic club.
What more would you like me to say?
You could race your bike in post classic though.

Hey Ian I am only teasing and you missed waht I was teasing about. I was trying to tease you into defining what is a 'true' or 'pure' classic bike is. If getting some Post Classic outfits out would boost the entry how could that be bad? If, however there was a clear dofference in performance etc. creating a situation where classic outfits were getting lapped that would be a problem. Why not try it and see what happens?
Where do the Forgotten Era crowd race? Maybe have a crack at racing with them if we get our oil issue sorted and there is no eligibility problems.

Tripps, I think I put down earlier in this thread, there were over 120 outfits registered with forgotten era, some "pure/true" classic. How do you get those guy's back out racing?
I suppose I'm one of them, I'm use to racing against a full grid of bikes not half a dozen you get in 350/post classic.
If the clubs can guarantee a full grid then I would defo bring mine back out, wether that be against 350's, classics, post classics.

Your bike got it's elligabillity certificate in 1992 if I remember right

Trouble is Ian how many people feel the same as you? How about some action and see if others follow? One of the reasons we started racing was in response to the depleting grids at CRMC meetings. Guess I kinda thought that others may be inspired to have another go. Am really at a crossroads now especially after all the bad luck that we have suffered.

That's the question Tripps. Rob Cameron asked me over 12 months ago if I would be interested in having a run out against the classic lads with my pc outfit. I said I would defo but then the classic committee said no to post classic's entering.
I think the 350/post classic's have 5 races this year, 5 races, that is crap, that is one every 6 weeks on average. Combine them with the Classic club & you would get them out & others would come out including me.

Do you know why you were told no?

Think it was a decision at the Classic AGM????

Mmm don't remebr that. Mind you I got bored with all the rambling and spouting going on and did not go back in after the coffee break so maybe that is when I missed it? Perhaps Rob will know?

I think it was about this time last year when Rob & Bludge were trying to improve the classic grids when it was suggested the pc outfits were let out with the classics.

Undoubtedly the hierarchy purists objected due to stroker cut-off date. I use the word 'purists' loosely especially after looking at some of the totally non-eligible stuff that runs with CRMC (solos, that is). If f350 were permitted then a factipon of the smelly brigade would want TD2s and more in as well :shocked:

Sorry if this is a daft question but isn't Post Classic a different class to F350?

Yes trips they are indeed separate but they do regularly share grids at the moment.
It's a shame Stu Mellor isn't more computer literate or he'd be able to shed more light

Triplebrew wrote:Sorry if this is a daft question but isn't Post Classic a different class to F350?

Yes Trips, It is a totally different class... F350 is the "original" cheap entry class designed so new comers could actually start/enter our sport. this was done by the likes of Gary Golder, Norman Hanks etc... The bikes are tubular convensional chassis with mainly the TZ350 twin as a powerplant.

There's another thread for later ,,, how the hell does a new comer get into the sport now? I think a new entry level class is needed now and quick too. Something along the lines of BOG STANDARD one make motor ie CB500 twin using everything even airbox stock. make the motor untouchable as regards tuning. Could even have a type approved silencer/restrictor to keep everyone on a level play field... chassis as per the old F350???? Would make a good competetive cheap sidecar class.

Post Classic /Forgotten era is the 1970/80's period bikes ie GS1000, TZ750 etc ..... Not up on their rulings but dont think they allow (long outfits?)... That will be one for Stu Mellor or Ianw....

It would just make sense that all three classes joined forces and raced together as far as I am concerned.

The classic AGM was an absolute "joke shop" last year. Bludge and I went but 100% wont bother this year... We put forward proposals via the correct channels, ie had to submit written proposals to Sec by a certain date etc, this we done but come the actual meeting and every time I stood up to put forward one of our "sidecar " proposals was told "could you sit down we will do that one later" LATER NEVER CAME ! ! They just didnt want to know...
Complete waste of mine and Bludges time, effort, diesel money etc would have been better off staying at home in a nice hot bath doing a few under water farts!

Oh, and then counting the bubbles!

Cheers I understand the classes a bit better now. Can see no reason why all 3 could not share a race other than possibly tyres. If any use slicks then a higher grade of Clerk is required and I don't think there are that many Clerks out there?

Your right about the AGM and sidecars within the CRMC though Rob. Mind you when we entered the Lord Of Lydden this year cant say I was bold over by the treatment we were giving there either