Dave Hutchens wrote:Bill the history of the one iam working on is not documented, but its is believed to
have originally been the Hadleigh Customs Honda 750 from 74 ridden by Dave Bexley.
In the intervening years its not known what it housed but possibly a T500/T750. John and Jack Woods did the Konig conversion to Renwick drawings in the ninety's.
John Renwick didn't number his production, but I will be taking the bare frame down to see him in the new year which hopefully will shed some light on it. Dave
Dave, fantastic, I wonder what Dave Bexley thought of it, he had for a while I think so I guess he thought it was OK. Mind you I don't think Honda 750 and Renwick were the ideal combination. John is the perfect man to give you the set up details. I'm told when they were set up as he said they did not bump steer significantly. Remember there is nothing bump steers like Earles type forks when turned slightly, but we all accept the head shakes from them.
Bill.
Bob B wrote:Certainly recall seeing a Konig with Gardner carbs but cannot recall who, what or where In my defence I did not take much notice as I did not consider the Konig as a 'proper' sidecar power plant then
I know that Kim (Newcombe) used twin Tillotsen carbs on the factory solo.Ultimately better,but much more difficult to set up than
the original Solex twin choke.
Regards from dept.64 (nowhere near Bergerac ) )
The Renwick that Dave Bexley had a Honda motor fitted in broke in haft at the 1974 TT. It broke were the 4" sidecar spine tube joins the main frame. I think this was probably due to the weight of the Honda engine and the fact that it was only mounted on the alloy tray with no other fixings.
Dave reverted to building is own "Hub-centre" outfit in 75' that "Wobbled" like hell. That year in a race at Snetterton it broke a rear wishbone, which then made the outfit turn right into the barrier haftway down the Norwich straight, throwing the occupants off a speed, from which Dave suffered bad hand injury. Can't remember were the Renwck went after Dave sold it?
Dave Hutchens wrote:Hi Konig buffs, picture two shows I believe Gardner carbs don,t remember them being used on a konig do
wonder how well they worked?
FWTW, John Renwick did so much of the development of the entire outfit - the primary chain, engine sprocket and shock absorber on the early versions was straight off a standard Vincent as these engines are what John had been developing for years (and still is!!) before the Konig.
John R and Ron Gardner were (and still are) well known to each other and the Gardner carbs WILL have performed, as Ron will have been very instrumental in setting them up on that engine, especially as Ron was always looking for new types of engine to use his carbs on.
Malcolm very interesting about Dave Bexleys chassis braking in I.O.M. weight would have been an issue as I believe Dave was quite a big guy? Added to this is the assumption that you had to run them stiff if they weren't run on anything apart from a billiard table which I don't believe the I.O.M is??? Dry weight of a Konig version is approx 400lb considerable more with a CB750 as a Konig engine weighs approx 50lb. I will be inspecting the chassis in great detail when it comes back from the blasters in new year I will let you know if there is any visible evidence.
Rotary 293 is correct when he says Kim Newcombe used a pair of Tilitson Carbs although it is documented that he also used the Solex twin choke depending on Circuit. In July 1974 we borrowed Kims Tilitson carbs from P&R Hydraulics, the Konig importers at the time complete with the Disc Valve assembly. These had come straight of his crashed bike the previous year after his sad and un-timely death, the subsequent test proved inconclusive and we never tried them again regards to you both Dave
Dave, the 4" tube twisted where it joined the main frame, If I recall correctly (1974 remember) John Renwick had the broken unit back and may have given Dave Bexley a replacement. Let me know what you find when you get the unit back.
Cheers Malcolm
In my defence I did not take much notice as I did not consider the Konig as a 'proper' sidecar power plant then 
) )
Regret no details at all but perhaps someone may know ...