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To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:11 pm
by lang
An article from MCN 1967, which is positive proof that Konigs are without question eligible for Classic Racing:

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Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:47 pm
by Triplebrew
Great :D , lets get it on the grid then ;)

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:05 pm
by Vicky Cooke
Excellent Howie, looking forward to it being on track with us :D

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:10 pm
by Simon Smith
Hate to be a killjoy chaps but don't you have to prove that it was raced in the UK for CRMC eligibility?

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:23 pm
by Bob B
Can't be arsed to wait for the image to download - why so BIG?

Next - CRMC regs state clearly that the cut off date for two strokes is 1964 so how does an article dated 1967 square the circle?

Just accept the rules for what they are. What's difficult about that?

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:31 pm
by steve-e
is this legible? it's about 95% smaller filesize so may not..
didn't it used to be 67 for two strokes and 72 for 4 strokes years back when dad had the NSU? has it changed or was I wrong?
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Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:39 pm
by steve-e
From the Eligibility rules 2009 downloaded from the CRMC site. I can't see anything there saying it has to have been raced in the UK, is that an unwritten rule or have I missed it? I only scanned through to the sidecar bit I must admit

source: http://www.crmc.co.uk/download/pdf/CRMC ... 202009.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
PART 10 - SIDECAR ELIGIBILITY RULES
Machines intended to participate in CRMC events may register with the Eligibility Sub-Committee in order
that their eligibility status may be determined. The method of registration is detailed on the registration
form. All machines so registered will be issued with a Registration Certificate which will enable Safety
Scrutineers to pass the machines for eligibility, provided there have been no alterations to the machine
since the issue of the certificate.

CLASSIFICATION
Sidecars will be classified by wheel size into "Period 1", "Period 2" and by engine type into “Period 3”.
Period 1 machines will have both front and rear wheels of 16 inch diameter or greater. Period 2 and 3 will
10 inch to 15 inch wheels

SPECIFICATION RULES

Engines eligibility will follow the same criteria applied to the solos, both 2 and 4 stroke.
Period 1 - Engines eligible for "Period 1" will be 1967 for 2 strokes, 1972 for 4 stroke with the restriction of
2 valves per cylinder, maximum 2 cylinder, engine limited up to 750cc, with a tyre width of maximum of 4
inches and a minimum wheel size of 16 inches.
Period 2 - Engines eligible for "Period 2" will be air cooled two valve twins limited up to 750cc. In Period 3
engines will be multi valve, multi cylinder over 750cc up to 1300cc. Also eligible are car engines from the
classic period any hybrid engine produced in the period (eg Earles Arrow, PATH URS).

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:41 pm
by Triplebrew
Bob B wrote:Can't be arsed to wait for the image to download - why so BIG?

Next - CRMC regs state clearly that the cut off date for two strokes is 1964 so how does an article dated 1967 square the circle?

Just accept the rules for what they are. What's difficult about that?

Sorry Bob but cut off for 2 strokes is 1967 as per eligibility form:

SPECIFICATION RULES
Engines eligibility will follow the same criteria applied to the solos, both 2 and 4 stroke.
Period 1 - Engines eligible for "Period 1" will be 1967 for 2 strokes, 1972 for 4 stroke with the restriction of
2 valves per cylinder, maximum 2 cylinder, engine limited up to 750cc, with a tyre width of maximum of 4
inches and a minimum wheel size of 16 inches.
Period 2 - Engines eligible for "Period 2" will be air cooled two valve twins limited up to 750cc. In Period 3
engines will be multi valve, multi cylinder over 750cc up to 1300cc. Also eligible are car engines from the
classic period any hybrid engine produced in the period (eg Earles Arrow, FATH URS).

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:47 pm
by steve-e
As long as it's 16" wheels I take it for P1?
Not wanting to get in the middle of any politics ;) Just want to understand what's going on 8-)

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:49 pm
by djtriumph
Hello is there an echo in here :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:50 pm
by steve-e
in here? :D

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:58 pm
by Triplebrew
djtriumph wrote:Hello is there an echo in here :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, Steve is just quicker at cut and paste :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry: :raspberry:

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:02 pm
by Simon Smith
My mistake, just had to be raced in Europe so would be OK on that front.

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:09 pm
by oldbelly
So does this mean Howards engine is elegible but only if it is in a chassis with 16" wheels.

Re: To Dispell Any Doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:10 pm
by Triplebrew
If he wanted to run Period 1 I guess. However why not run on small wheels in period 2? Oh hang on, thing about number of cylinders so will probably make it period 3 :roll: Anyhow who cares what period lets get it out there!