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2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:21 pm
by Helen Gibson
I am seriously concerned given the attrition rate this year. 56 entries, 37 starters, 24 finishers.
If anyone wants to do the 2011 TT contact me for any help.
Also... all suggestions for how we get more people here gladly received.
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:05 pm
by bruce moore
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:22 pm
by scud
Standard Engines
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:24 pm
by gatekeeper
i agree with scud on this one
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:24 pm
by bruce moore
scud ,totaly agree,bring back F2
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:58 pm
by alanw
Standard injection, open carboureted, (is that how you spell it)

Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:05 pm
by Bob B
Yup, standard engines are the way to go I believe despite the naysayers about reliability - things could not get worse surely. One minor point - presumably standard engines also means standard ECUs ???
If you think it is not the way to go just look at some of the F1 teams who are running standard engines now to good effect and possobly have a rethink

Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:38 pm
by Mart6
Standard engines , proved a good move for F1s Nows the time for F2s give everyone a level platform
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:49 pm
by teamradar
So apart from saving just to afford to get there next year I will have to buy standard engines & ecu then find it won't run properly without some form of fuelling /ignition adjustment. Great.
Most reliability issues are down to poorly designed sumps/oiling systems which can be sorted with the ability to log what's going on.
My bike is reliable due to development by Dongo,Steve Coombes etc which was done with the flexibility of Motec.
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:02 pm
by bruce moore
Andy,we all know motec is good,but too expensive for F2,which is supposed to be the a cheaper alternative to F1,Mr Honda makes a damn fine ECU which will run a standard engine with no Probs,there are people at the TT that spend thousends and lap no quicker than a standard thundercat !,so lets encourage people back and bring the grids back to 60+ outfits
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:16 pm
by teamradar
Bruce, I'm not saying that you must have a Motec just some form of adjustment.You know that I use HRC but the development for my bike was already done.The cost to me to change to standard would make it very difficult to afford to go in 2011. A standard engine with a bad sump will be just as un-reliable as a tuned one.
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:17 pm
by gatekeeper
standard engines suitably modded for use ---sump power commander kit ecu's but no mechanical engine tuning
Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:26 pm
by ralph95
what is a standard engine they are modifed in some way shape or form in sidecars

who going police such a thing

this is a big can of worms it push the cost of the sport up .it's happened in karting

Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:29 pm
by Coxy
teamradar wrote:So apart from saving just to afford to get there next year I will have to buy standard engines & ecu then find it won't run properly without some form of fuelling /ignition adjustment. Great.
Most reliability issues are down to poorly designed sumps/oiling systems which can be sorted with the ability to log what's going on.
My bike is reliable due to development by Dongo,Steve Coombes etc which was done with the flexibility of Motec.
i make you right there

motec is the future

Re: 2011 TT
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:37 pm
by Bob B
Simply monitored surely by portable dyno and don't tell me that ACU Events can't afford it. Either every team or random and first three home. Worked for Aprillia 250 series and Mini-Twins and others. Simple to collect appropriate manufacturers data and have teams required to supply engine make, model and year. Sorted.