Development

[Richard Rollings]

OK. If the development of sidecars had been left largely unregulated what would they look like now?
The only thing that should be left is one wheel drive and one wheel steering (I know that is 2 but yo get my drift)

[steve-e]

Like cars, with passengers not moving. I reckon the beo was the future, be interested what others think

[Alan Richardson]

One things for sure, proper bikes wouldnt be forced to have 600 engines Stupid idea. Seriously, they would be just as they ( LCR's ) are now. Everything else is just a personalised copy.

[steve-e]

There would probably be no world championship as the top bikes would be crazy expensive and only a handful of people able to afford the technology. Oh hang on

Like the LCR now or sitters? I think that would've caught on had it been allowed to continue.
Turbo thousands - still two stroke? , engine more central, still no roof.

[Dan]

Like cars, with passengers not moving.

Something like the Bill & Maggie Tuer Morgan do you mean Steve? Definitely the future, you are so right I know that has two wheel steering though, a minor detail

[ianw]

Two wheel steering should be allowed, it was used nearly 40 years ago.
Adjustable camber, ie, banking sidecars, also unequal length wishbones front & rear.
Engine position left up to the builder.

[SlowPhil]

I've been told that the ACU don’t know why the 600 long bike thing has happened but they assume that its for safety, well the Birchalls have proved that it wont work, they are almost on the pace of the big bikes…………..

[Jim Sinnott]

Bring back the 60 / 70's but no Morgans please

[steve-e]

Captain Morgans ok?

[ianw]

No Morgans, they are 3 wheelers not sidecars, but I'd let in Owen Greenwoods Mini, that was a 4 wheeler!!!!
( Not to go off topic, George Hardwick did a complete restoration on the Greenwood Mini )
A good starting point to build a modern outfit with no restrictions would be Jack Levy's Unorfordox & then bring Bruce Ford Dunne into the design.

[steve-e]

Ah but then Ian you're making rules. Maybe just to exclude certain people, that wouldn't be right would it?

[ianw]

No, not excluding anyone Steve. The thread started of with rules.

[steve-e]

2 wheel steering should be allowed? That was one of only 2 rules specified

One wheel drive
One wheel steering

They were the rules. I still think it would be quicker with no passenger, but then that would be car racing. Richard started innocently but didn't realise how many rules are needed to make sure it's sidecar racing, not trikes or 3 wheeled cars. I think that's a problem we will always have. It's a ridiculous concept from the start.