Konny and Konig engines

RARING TO GO · Unread post by **RARING TO GO** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:06 pm

ianw wrote:Someone should build a chassis like this for a Konny engine, Rudi Kurth, 1968, 44 years ago!
sidecar chassis haven't moved on much.
http://www.eurospares.com/rdk2a.jpg
http://www.eurospares.com/rdk2a.jpg

Ian, next one to be built by D&D it is a KOVA.

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:50 pm

Now that's more like it

Wal · Unread post by **Wal** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:42 pm

Nah Ian, it's got pneumatic rear suspension, it can't be a classic ! . . .can it ?

RARING TO GO · Unread post by **RARING TO GO** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:33 pm

Wal, well spotted I thought it was maybe a Mini dash pot, so what is the suspension actually off?

Unread post by **steve-e** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:50 pm

Wal wrote:Nah Ian, it's got pneumatic rear suspension, it can't be a classic ! . . .can it ?

The first NSU in the CRMC (*1) had that, horrible things

I think Dad's was the first NSU in the CRMC? Bobert will know.

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:53 pm

Michel, don't let Wal wind you up

, he knows full well that Rudi Kurth used pneumatic / hydraulic suspension back in 1968, based on a Citroen design.
Well and truly Classic Club eligible, like Wal

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:17 pm

Michel, Rudi Kurths outfit was that light that he transported it on the roof of his Citroen estate.
http://www.classic-motorrad.de/cm2002/k ... rth-72.jpg

RARING TO GO · Unread post by **RARING TO GO** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:56 pm

The first Renwick had Citroen hydraulic units also, BTW I once owned a DS safari and the roof was made from Fibre glass so that outfit was really light.

Bob B · Unread post by **Bob B** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:40 pm

NSU - Ray's was the first to race with CRMC. Mini units for rear suspension were not uncommon and did the job very well - our last bike ran one of these and was CRMC eligible with the Triumph motors.

Rudi in conjunction with Fritz Scheidegger used a number of Citroen components including a front wheel drive that was only tested, never raced.

tonybsa2008 · Unread post by **tonybsa2008** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:58 pm

I take it the mini rear suspension units,were the rubber cones,and not pneumatic like the Citroen units?

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:00 pm

1965 Bob, think this was the first one for Fritz Scheidegger. There is defo a mind of information out there Bob

http://www.eurospares.com/rdk1c.jpg

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:03 pm

Tony, Bob will tell you, the mini rubber ball was used with two small hydraulic dampers mounted on the swing arm, the set up on my first Windle.

lang · Unread post by **lang** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:17 pm

tonybsa2008 wrote:I take it the mini rear suspension units,were the rubber cones,and not pneumatic like the Citroen units?

Tony the picture of my weslake on page 6 of this post shows the mini rubber cone on the rear suspension. The dampers Ian mentioned were engine mounting dampers from austin 1800s..

ianw · Unread post by **ianw** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:31 pm

Getting back to the serious side of the thread, will Howard be able to race his Konig powered outfit , with a change of tyres/wheels etc in Classic Club meetings in 2013?
As a lot of people have said, sidecar bloke is an amiable guy & is doing a great job, but I think Howard deserves a straight answer after all the money & hard work he has put into the bike, that answer isn't forth coming from sidecar bloke!
I honestly can't see what more Howard can do to prove that the Konig engine was raced in an outfit before the initial 2 Stroke cut off date.

tonybsa2008 · Unread post by **tonybsa2008** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:10 pm

Thats what I thought Howard,my first bike was a Windrick.

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