From Paul Riley - 40yr maximum age for Newcomers at TT

[RARING TO GO]

The Equality Act 2010 says that you must not be discriminated against because:

You are (or are not) a certain age or in a certain age group.
Someone thinks you are (or are not) a specific age or age group. This is known as discrimination by perception.
You are connected to someone of a specific age or age group. This is known as discrimination by association.
This is when you are treated differently because of your age in one of the situations that are covered by the Equality Act. The Act has some exceptions, though; students are not protected from age discrimination at school, for example;

The treatment could be a one-off action or as a result of a rule or policy based on age. It doesn’t have to be intentional to be unlawful.
Direct discrimination

This happens when someone treats you worse than another person in a similar situation because of your age.

[Stevieweavie]

If it hadn't been for the sidecar racers been willing to go out on a less than perfectly dry road, there would have been days of no racing at this years, and past years TT's and nothing to show on the evenings highlights on TV. The thanks you get for this is this stupid age limit rule.

[petercaughlin]

It would appear from the Classic Club forum that they impose an age limit of 40 for Classic TT and MGP, I don`t know how they can get away with it, interestingly today on Radio 2 they were on about teenagers getting Saturday jobs,most were unable due to various rules and some were told they were unemployable till they were 16,I young lad applied for a job and and told the employer that he wasn't 16 the man gave the lad the job because he told him he couldn't use the 16 age limit as it was "age discrimination",

[Dan]

paul i would get in touch with annette of team past it they got turned down because of robins age ,but got it turned round when challenged by quoting age discrimination ,it's worth a few minutes talk with her best of luck to you .

Dick/Paul
Robin and Annette's entry was not (officially) turned down because of their ages, Robin 74 and Annette some years younger but over 40 ( I would never divulge that she was 61 at the time ) Many people suspected that it was to do with their ages but the TT organisers never stated this as a reason and Team Past It never claimed that it was. They appealed the decision and the case put to the organisers, plus the outcry caused by sidecar fans because of the refused entry, support from some of the top teams and support from other race organisers, such as Pete Hillaby who confirmed that the pair rode at Oliver's Mount without any problems and were well capable of riding at the TT, swayed the TT people to change their minds and allow the entry.

Robin and Annette riding at the TT created, as far as I am aware, nothing but good publicity around the world as the story of their entry to the greatest road race on Earth spread via the media. The number of fans visiting the team camp in the paddock was fantastic and good wishes flooded in from all over the place. The organisers didn't put any obstacles in their way throughout the practice week and although they just failed to qualify for the first race they were advised by the powers that be to carry on and try to qualify in the Monday practice session as they, the organisers, wanted Robin and Annette to race.

They did manage to get into the second race and I have never seen before all the organising team working in and around the scrutineering bay form two lines and applaud any competitors through as they did with Robin and Annette as they went to their outfit ready for the start. Although they were the last team to complete three laps, some teams were behind them and were flagged off after two laps as they had been lapped by the leaders, they were met at the finish by many people who were so pleased that they had successfully completed a dream ambition. The top TT personnel in the grandstand tower actually came out to applaud the pair over the finish line

I should add that Team Past It could have done a better race time than they did but when on their last lap Robin was spending so much time acknowledging the waves and cheers from the spectators that he took a bit longer than he should have done. Also having to stop to allow Annette to pull up the zip on her leathers, even though it was a very nice bra she was showing off ( sorry Annette, it had to be said ), didn't help the race average. Robin milked the last lap as he had thought it would be his one and only time racing an outfit at the TT, but even before the camp was dismantled for the return journey to Scotland plans were being formulated for the next year's entry,........NO bucket list wish for Team Past IT.
The following year's entry was accepted without any problems.

[RARING TO GO]

If the IOM TT /ACU recieves any financial support from the EU they will have to answer for the discrimination practices whic are illegal.

2016 ACU HANDBOOK PAGE 107. EQUAL PORTUNITIES /SPORT EQUITY POLICY STATEMENT.
The Auto Cycle Union ACU aims to ensure that all people irrespective of their age, gender, desability race, ethnic origin, creed, colour, social status, or sexual orientation have a genuine and equal oppourtunity to participate in motorcycle sport and leisure at all levels and in all roles. That is as a beginer, participant or competitor and as a coach, manager, administrator. official or spectator.

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Human Rights Act 2001

The Chief Secretary of the Isle of Man Government has issued a policy on the which can be found here.

The Act incorporates the fundamental rights and freedoms in the European Convention on Human Rights into Manx domestic law. The Act makes it unlawful for a public authority to behave in a way which contravenes those rights. If the information in the policy does not answer your questions, please email us at enquiries.cso@gov.im or telephone +44 (0) 1624 686409.
Equal Opportunities Statement

We aim for our policies, actions and recruitment strategy to support our belief that nobody should face discrimination, or are disadvantaged in any way on the grounds of their gender, race, religion disability, age, marital status or sexual orientation.

The Isle of Man Government welcomes applications from candidates regardless of gender, ethnic origin, disability, religious belief, sexual orientation or any other irrelevant factor.

The government is bound by the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 2001.

The Isle of Man Government complies with the provisions of the Control of Employment Act 1975. Any potential employee who is not registered as an Isle of Man worker requires a work permit before being eligible for employment in the Isle of Man.

[petercaughlin]

With respect to your answer I would disagree, as regards minimum ages this has to be,you can`t have 15 year olds on Superbikes but you can start teenagers from 13 in various forms of racing KTM run one I believe, also Moto 3 caters for youngsters who can race before they are old enough to have a road licence, with regards to upper ages this could be successfully argued on discrimination and the one thing the law loves is "precedent" and there is a lot of precedent to back up a case like this. It should be decided on medical grounds, if you are fit enough to pass a medical age is immaterial.

[ianw]

Sidecar racing has a recent ex sidecar racer who is very high up in the ACU, an ACU Director, amongst other positions.
He was also past the age of retirement when he "retired".
It would be good to hear his view on what is the new "proposed ruleing" for newcomers.

[RARING TO GO]

I am surprised at the total lack of concern by members of the sidecar racing fraternity at this immoral, illegal travesty let alone those who commited the aformentioned. Thin end of the wedge.

[little chud]

you're not on Facebook then? Perhaps you should take a look on there to see the amount of concern.

I am surprised at the total lack of concern by members of the sidecar racing fraternity at this immoral, illegal travesty let alone those who commited the aformentioned. Thin end of the wedge.

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I am on FB.

[Fanch]

RARING TO GO, my dear, you've a PM waiting for you !

[johnc]

There used to be an age limit of 60 for the TT, I seem to remember, but that was done away with years ago in favour of a medical only. To suddenly bring in a 40 limit, is a pretty big change of stance.

[RARING TO GO]

There used to be an age limit of 60 for the TT, I seem to remember, but that was done away with years ago in favour of a medical only. To suddenly bring in a 40 limit, is a pretty big change of stance.

Maybe this had to do with a certain ACU person approaching the cut off age???

[ianw]

You took the words right out of my mouth.
As John said, the 40 year old age limit was done away with in favour of a medical.
That certain ACU person who has his "finger" in numerous pies at the "Boys Club" which they call the ACU just happens to be on the ACU Medical Panel!!