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Konig. Rare in a sidecar and even rarer in a solo. What an incredible noise! 500cc 4 cylinder 2 smoke. (came form a jet ski I think).

It looks like a Kim Newcombe replica Konig. They also made the motors in 680cc and 750cc too. They were definately developed from a marine engine, I believe they raced hydrofoils using various Konig motors. There were apparently a lot of them about in the 1970's in sidecar racing before the TZ's took over. There's a bit more information and a few pictures on this site:

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I could tell you loads of stuff about the Konigs sometime I'm impressed gentlemen They were from watersports where the porous barrels weren't a problem, but in sidecars they gave a lot of trouble. I think it might have been Mike Smith or Roger Keen who I was talking to about the trouble with getting them to stop leaking through.
In that pic I think I see a vacuum pump and I can tell you a couple of good stories about them too - like running 2 on an ADM thing with one back to front and spending all weekend at croft with an odd misfire till we found out what it was..

There were 2 outfits and 1 solo racing at Chimay this year. Belgium is the only place I have seen them.

Does anyone know of any Konig motors / parts lying about doing nothing under benches etc ? There were a good few back in the day, but none seem to be about now.

If you do find any Konig parts lying under a bench, take my advice and leave them there.

Anyway you couldn't run one these days because you can't buy Goofy Juice anymore to keep the plugs clean.

Big Tim wrote:Does anyone know of any Konig motors / parts lying about doing nothing under benches etc ? There were a good few back in the day, but none seem to be about now.

I have one lying about under a bench, in fact we have still got the whole outfit. The motors were either C class 500 or D class 680 for hydroplanes. In the eighties I also bought some other engines & parts which were ex George O'Dell, one of which we still have. Unfortunately they were not exactly trouble free and in exchange for services rendered most of our other motors ended up with Doug Willey (ex hydroplane champion and water speed record holder) who also serviced the engines for Kim Newcombe and George. Sadly, Doug died a couple of years ago, I am sure he would have had a large stock of Konigs.



Also, I think Team Pastit have got a Konig, and Tony Wakefield was out on the British Magnum at Mallory in July, the design of which is based on the Konig.

My father is building a replica of the Konig outfit he raced in the 1970's, to race next season, and is keen to source and buy any Konig engines or parts anyone may have for sale. Contact Howard Langham anytime (send me a P.M. for contact details). Thanks.

We're trying to get hold of a konig outfit at the minute. It's on hold for a while but we're still after one.

My dad ha a lot of success with his back in the 70's.

we have your dads konig outfit kenny get him to post a photo of it when he raced it in Scotland.

I've been meaning to pick it up for weeks now, I keep forgetting. I'll get it scanned on this week.

konigs,The man who made the best of them including outfits is John Renwick,he made quite a few in the 70`s in fact Odells was one of his,.Johns own one the Renwick Wedge was driven in the TT by the Boret brothers,Gerry and Nick,its a hub centre job,John at the minute is going off to Bonneville with a 1600cc plus Vincent outfit to try and take the world sidecar record,is it possible to access Bonneville Speed Week results on the Web ?

Caughlin of Dorset

kew wrote:If you do find any Konig parts lying under a bench, take my advice and leave them there.

Anyway you couldn't run one these days because you can't buy Goofy Juice anymore to keep the plugs clean.

whats "goofy Juice" ?????

jc.

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