Who are they?

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Who are they?

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A large photograph has come into my hands. I think it is TT, given the hedges with large stones in them, which are visible in the main picture(too large to scan). I have scanned a part of it, so you can see the outfits.. so.. who? When?
Please don't post on Facebook etc at this stage, as I don't know whose copyright it is.
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That photo is used in the Southern 100 book "Fifty Years Of The Friendly Races". It's on Page 22, the riders names are not captioned, but it's apparently 1969.
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The photo was on show at the Laxey TT/MGP Exhibition at TT time. The Title was '9-Wheel Formation Flying' and the caption with it read:

'A trio of Triumph powered projectiles dice in the 1969 Southern 100 Sidecar Championship. P D Crossley leads B Chatterton and M F Ward. Regretably the programme does not give the passengers name.'

P D Crossley is Paul Crossley from Castleford
B Chatterton is Bernard Chatterton from Rotherham
M F Ward is Malcolm Ward from Rotherham

Apparently 1969 was the first year that the Southern 100 was included in the British Championship. Other riders listed, with some recognisable names, were:

Charlie Freeman Norton Ecklington
Roy Hanks BSA Birmingham
R Williamson WHB- Rutland
John Worthington Scitsu Sheffield
Bill Currie Triumph Cheshire
John Patrick Tri/Norton N'hants
K Graham Triumph Newcastle
J S Watson Triumph Yorks
Keith Griffin Triumph Onchan
R Wheeler BSA Birmingham
Eric Bregazzi Triumph Union Mills
Malcolm Ward Triumph Rotherham
Ernie Leece LMS Onchan
D Turner Triumph Lancs
P Ogden Triumph Lincs
Ronald Angus BSA Birmingham
R Bray BSA London
Mick Broom Triumph Leicester
Peter Brown BSA Northampton
M D Caley CBW Essex
Bernard Chatterton Triumph Rotherham
Paul Crossley Triumph Castleford
Kenneth Fisher BSA Poynton
John Fox Triumph Doncaster
Bob Kewley Rumble Bootle
M Mason Norton London
P Millar Triumph Surrey
Artie Oates L&M Special Ballamodha
George O'Dell Triumph H Hempstead
M A Smith BSA Coventry
Chris Vincent BSA Northampton
Peter Williams BSA Birmingham
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M D Caley is Malcolm Caley from Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, who before driving passengered for many years with Dave Ajax on a Manx outfit including the TT on several occasions.
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That was Charlie Freemans last Southern. He won with Kenny Arthur in the chair. Charlie had been away on holiday for a couple of years ;) .
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Ah yes, I remember Charlies holiday, accompanied by his good mate Dave Ajax ;-)
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:lol: And several others from North London :lol: :lol:
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Indeed so John ;) Of all the sidecar peeps in the area there were only about two or three of us that did not get an early morning alarm call!
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Unread post by sidecarracer51 »

Paul Crossley's passenger was ? Stockdale from Sherburn in Elmete and I think, it is my engine they are using, as they had blown there's at Cadwell the weekend before.
Also, I think Paul was the first to use a mini wheeled outfit.
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I seem to rememeber Paul's passenger as John Stockdale,he later emigrated to the Isle of Man and ran the Stock Car stadium at Onchan.I also vaguely remember Paul's father working for Jim Norbury at Lockside engineering.
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so not Peter Stockdale who was passenger with George O´Dell?
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No.31 is Malcolm Ward (aka Sos Ward) and Cyril Jobes from Bolton on Dearne,Sos worked with Terry Windle and John Crick building outfits at Colin Bell Motorcycles before Terry and John left to form Windrick Racing.
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Thanks for all that interesting stuff, so do we know all the names now?
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Thanks for uploading that great picture. I have a correction for a passengers name. Number 31 is being ridden by my dad, Malcolm Ward. In the chair is his younger brother Alan Ward. My dad did ride with Cyril Jones but not until later in the 70's. Thanks again, Chris.
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Hi Chris
As soon as i saw the colors of the outfit i thought got to be Malcolm Ward
and i think last time i saw your self would be at Flookbourgh and i would think you were probs about 5 years old,
I live in the same village as your Dad now, Will have to try and get to see him some time soon
give him my Regards next time you see him.

All The Best Tony
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